Another pouch attachment system

Recently new attachment system from PocketUp emerged and kickstarted my thinking about another method of pouch attachment.

Frankly, I do not trust hook&loop fastener enough to relay on it at outer pouch attachment. But I like very much “soft hook” DTMF and put it in any niche I can.

So behold, the nameless yet pouch attachment system with DTMF and sort of daisy chain.

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Admin pouch with paracord PALs and rigid inner flaps

We learn from failures more, than from successes. Recently I made an “admin” or possibles pouch, which supposed to be brilliant, but ended ahem barely capable.

My initial idea was to construct a narrow and thin pouch, fitting the upper staps on front of plate carrier, or any confined surface.

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Dirt-cheap detachable chest rig

Dirt-cheap detachable chest rig

Compact chest rigs that integrate into the backpack’s straps are not new – D3CR+FlatPack from HSP (read – VOCR from EGL), Ventrapack from CivilianLab, to name a few. I’ve always wondered how pricey they are, noticing the small dimensions and overall amount of labor put into them.

Now, let’s make one for the price of pouches, set of Chinese-made rectangle carabiners and pair of soft snap-button PALs attachment clips.

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Non-standard wide PALs

Sometimes I see modular platforms which include PALs loops wider than standard. It’s obviously GoRuck (1.9-2″ wide) and discontinued BOGear products (no info).

PALs GoRuck

I’ve always wondered if it is rational in terms of convenience. One day I tried to figure the most versatile PALs loop width with aim to attach any pouches centered – with even and odd number of loops on them.

Surprisingly, the needed width is 2,625″ – 1,75 times wide than standard 1,5″ wide PALs loop.

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VAC, versatile attachment cell

VAC, versatile attachment cell

The necessity for a method to attach standard buckles for a PALs platform is obvious to me. So I’ve played with an idea to combine G-hook and T-shape adapter in one accessory unit.

Sorry for crappy pics, as usual.

versatile_attachment_cell vac

Simply put, it is a wrapper around PALs loop, which is fastened with DTMF closure.

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Velcro on PALs placement – quick and dirty

Sorry for long lack of posts, I’m still here and even reading the blogroll.

I’ve seen at least two commercial solutions which put velcro surface over the PALs surface. Can’t believe it could happen.

velcro on the PALs

To make a single-cell wide three inches height velcro attachment point we need:

  • strip of loop velcro 6 (six) inches long and 1 (one) inch wide;
  • strip of hook velcro 3 (three) inches long and 1 (one) inch wide;
  • strip of paper about 4 inches long and about 1.25 inches wide.

Slip a hook strip under the PALs, slip a piece of paper over it, put a loop strip over the PALs and slip its ends under the PALs over the paper. Pull out the paper. Ha! Kiss your PALs goodbye, you’ll never get them back again, velcro will stay forever on them. Though, narrow knife or ruler can help, but it is questionably.

One-piece soft clip for PALs attachment

It (five inches long) is compatible with specific PALs setup on the pouch – two-space-two, commonly found on Maxped pouches and some other manufacturers. See illustration:

one-piece soft pals clip

Though, the longer version (7 inches) will be compatible with another PALs stup on the pouch, never found on any pouch: two-space-one-space-two. I’ll make some for testing purposes in future.